and the post debate polls, which is where romney really made strides last week. on friday after a full 24 hours of post debate spin right? >> stephanie: right. >> the post debate talk has been pretty rough on ryan but the president is the president. >> stephanie: and we have been saying, i do think we send to be a little bit more honest. we came in and said the president has a bad night. whereas they are just spinning. i'm reading some poll analysis here. it says the most relevant poll comes from cbs news and it says it is 51% compared to 31% for ryan. i mean that was an ass kicking. [ laughter ] >> no doubt. >> stephanie: so you think the townhall will favor the president on tuesday. >> yes, and the fact that he went through this already once. it didn't work his way, and now he has to listen to advise to be more aggressive. he has done it in the past and it has worked for him in the past. so to be honest, i wasn't worried last week, so to say i'm not worried next week i could be wrong again. but obama does do well when his back is up against the wall. obama is s